Comments on: Inconsistencies. http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=inconsistencies Where necessities are at its basic and simplest forms. Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:01:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kuya Robert http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-517 kuya Robert Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:19:19 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-517 I chanced by your name and avatar sa blog ni taroogs. naalala lang kita. so how's your photography? hapi new year. :) I chanced by your name and avatar sa blog ni taroogs. naalala lang kita. so how’s your photography?
hapi new year. :)

]]> By: scaredcrow http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-502 scaredcrow Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:41:37 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-502 God is not complicated and I am pretty sure that He wouldn't mind on whether you are a catholic or not. It simply doesn't matter, even if you are a Muslim or a Jew. That's simply because we are praying to the same God. On another note, you must understand that the Bible is written by not just one person. So rather than concentrating on its 'inconsistencies', why not just follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. It's a lot simpler... uncomplicated. God is not complicated and I am pretty sure that He wouldn’t mind on whether you are a catholic or not. It simply doesn’t matter, even if you are a Muslim or a Jew. That’s simply because we are praying to the same God.

On another note, you must understand that the Bible is written by not just one person. So rather than concentrating on its ‘inconsistencies’, why not just follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. It’s a lot simpler… uncomplicated.

]]> By: Ian http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-483 Ian Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:32:39 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-483 I have grown up protestant, so I never really had to struggle with this, and have never been very comfortable with praying to saints. However, I have picked up some interesting tidbits over the years that I thought you might be interested in: - I asked a Catholic friend how it made sense to make and venerate crucifixes that included figures of Jesus, when there are clear commands against worshiping graven images. He claimed that when God came in the flesh as Jesus, he fulfilled that command and it was no longer necessary. (Quote approximate.) I didn't ask about graven images though. - Prayer and worship are different things. Prayer is basically asking a favor, and clearly it is OK to ask a favor of someone besides God. The weirdness is more in the details, as far as my thinking has gone so far. Why would they have better access to God than Jesus? Why not just pray to Him? But hey, I ask friends to pray for me, so it's still not totally weird. Perhaps a better question: why would you ask someone who is no longer alive in this world to pray? The Bible does generally discourage communication with the dead. But we can tell from Jesus' testimony about the resurrection of the dead that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are alive, and so I suppose Mary must be too. In the end, the main problem I have with it is that it is superfluous, not that it is clearly wrong. Still makes me uncomfortable though. - I have heard that there are, at least in parts of Latin America, pagan cults that veil their worship as the veneration of saints, with different saints representing different pagan gods. Perhaps you encountered something of that sort, a Catholicism truly twisted to ugodly ends. If so, then by all means, run! I have grown up protestant, so I never really had to struggle with this, and have never been very comfortable with praying to saints. However, I have picked up some interesting tidbits over the years that I thought you might be interested in:
- I asked a Catholic friend how it made sense to make and venerate crucifixes that included figures of Jesus, when there are clear commands against worshiping graven images. He claimed that when God came in the flesh as Jesus, he fulfilled that command and it was no longer necessary. (Quote approximate.) I didn’t ask about graven images though.
- Prayer and worship are different things. Prayer is basically asking a favor, and clearly it is OK to ask a favor of someone besides God. The weirdness is more in the details, as far as my thinking has gone so far. Why would they have better access to God than Jesus? Why not just pray to Him? But hey, I ask friends to pray for me, so it’s still not totally weird. Perhaps a better question: why would you ask someone who is no longer alive in this world to pray? The Bible does generally discourage communication with the dead. But we can tell from Jesus’ testimony about the resurrection of the dead that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are alive, and so I suppose Mary must be too. In the end, the main problem I have with it is that it is superfluous, not that it is clearly wrong. Still makes me uncomfortable though.

- I have heard that there are, at least in parts of Latin America, pagan cults that veil their worship as the veneration of saints, with different saints representing different pagan gods. Perhaps you encountered something of that sort, a Catholicism truly twisted to ugodly ends. If so, then by all means, run!

]]> By: kengkay http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-85 kengkay Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:30:38 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-85 hi nika, am a catholic but i also attend the protestant masses. i have no problem with any religion as long as the promote the good :D hi nika, am a catholic but i also attend the protestant masses. i have no problem with any religion as long as the promote the good :D

]]> By: Mrs. Larry http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Mrs. Larry Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:01:41 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-57 I too was just recently looking up the different versions of the Ten Commandments. I was specifically looking for the Jewish version and found this site. http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Torah/Ten_Cmds/ten_cmds.html I too was just recently looking up the different versions of the Ten Commandments. I was specifically looking for the Jewish version and found this site.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Torah/Ten_Cmds/ten_cmds.html

]]> By: pao http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-49 pao Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:32:34 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-49 i'm not catholic, but when i talk to my catholic friends (mind you, talk, not debate with) about this, they really can't give any good reason for glossing over the commandments against idolatry. some churches don't even include it in the ten commandments. i believe the same thing that you do, though, that Jesus is the only way to salvation, and that i can go directly to him without intervention from a fellow human. i’m not catholic, but when i talk to my catholic friends (mind you, talk, not debate with) about this, they really can’t give any good reason for glossing over the commandments against idolatry. some churches don’t even include it in the ten commandments. i believe the same thing that you do, though, that Jesus is the only way to salvation, and that i can go directly to him without intervention from a fellow human.

]]> By: Nika Catbagan http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Nika Catbagan Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:32:18 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-45 @psychogodess: Its alright. :) @Michael: Thanks for reading. @David: I didn't leave it easily. Its been around 6 years already since I did. I'm not going back attending the regular mass we have in our Catholic Church here because the statues and other idols inside it makes me feel very uncomfortable. I firmly believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, and that I don't need to pray to Mary nor ask saints for intercession. The labeling of religions can be confusing though. I'm happy being a Christian and I intend to stay that way. :) Thank you for the links you gave though. I will check them out. @psychogodess: Its alright. :)

@Michael: Thanks for reading.

@David: I didn’t leave it easily. Its been around 6 years already since I did. I’m not going back attending the regular mass we have in our Catholic Church here because the statues and other idols inside it makes me feel very uncomfortable. I firmly believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, and that I don’t need to pray to Mary nor ask saints for intercession. The labeling of religions can be confusing though. I’m happy being a Christian and I intend to stay that way. :) Thank you for the links you gave though. I will check them out.

]]> By: David Lists http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-43 David Lists Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:26:13 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-43 Pls don't leave the Catholics faith so easily. It is sad that many Catholics, even catechists, are not spreading the faith correctly. There is nothing more tragic than empty idolatry. Being filipino myself, I think many of the older generations were too superstitious and did not have a full grasp our Catholic faith. But I can assure you that if you seek it, you will find true faith in whatever circumstance you have - even as a Catholic. Do visit http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/download and at least listen to the apologetic arguments which explain the faith. Inconsistencies seemingly abound in the bible since it is so vast and so complex. Only upon complete study could one make any meaningful conclusion. FYI - ewtn.com is another great site. Pls don’t leave the Catholics faith so easily. It is sad that many Catholics, even catechists, are not spreading the faith correctly. There is nothing more tragic than empty idolatry. Being filipino myself, I think many of the older generations were too superstitious and did not have a full grasp our Catholic faith. But I can assure you that if you seek it, you will find true faith in whatever circumstance you have – even as a Catholic. Do visit http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/download and at least listen to the apologetic arguments which explain the faith. Inconsistencies seemingly abound in the bible since it is so vast and so complex. Only upon complete study could one make any meaningful conclusion. FYI – ewtn.com is another great site.

]]> By: Michael Dineen http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Michael Dineen Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:32:45 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-42 A very good articie-- as a former Catholic I can understand every thing you said ---- God love you. In His Name. Michael N. A very good articie– as a former Catholic I can understand every thing
you said —- God love you.
In His Name.
Michael N.

]]> By: psychogoddess http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/comment-page-1/#comment-35 psychogoddess Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:45:54 +0000 http://www.sandokatpalayok.com/blog/2007/09/04/inconsistencies/#comment-35 The Spaniards' most effective weapon in colonizing the Philippines was Roman Catholicism and culturalists believe that we adopted this religion and "re-constructed" it to fit our own cultural, native beliefs. The early Filipinos were pagans and believed in stone/wooden gods and anitos. I think this could partly explain the existence of the Sto. Niños and the idols of the saints. Sorry for the impromptu history lesson but thought you might be interested. :) The Spaniards’ most effective weapon in colonizing the Philippines was Roman Catholicism and culturalists believe that we adopted this religion and “re-constructed” it to fit our own cultural, native beliefs. The early Filipinos were pagans and believed in stone/wooden gods and anitos. I think this could partly explain the existence of the Sto. Niños and the idols of the saints. Sorry for the impromptu history lesson but thought you might be interested. :)

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